-People from Birmingham in the UK have been developing a breed to work as a healthier version of the bull mastiff for guarding purposes by crossing rottweilers, english mastiff and some other similar breeds and are calling it a mastweiler, it has started to breed true and they are trying to get designer crosses of mastiffs and rottweilers renamed as rostiffs from where ever people get those names from.Is it recognised by any legitimate registries? No... so I wouldn't consider it a breed.
ETA - "I always thought that if a breed isn't registered in a kennel club it was because it hadn't been vetted enough not because it wasn't a breed."
Yes... it hasn't been proven to breed true, to have a good purpose (whether working or as a companion), etc. Whic means that it is not recognised as a breed.
Many people will tell you that a dog must be recognised by the KC or AKC to be a breed, which I disagree with. The FCI (the best, imo) recognises many breeds not yet recognised by the AKC or KC.
And then there are the sham registries which will register ANYTHING.
Personally, I feel that if the FCI recognises a breed, then it is a breed. Of course, this is open to debate, but anyone talking of made-up registries which will register such things as Labradoodles is wrong. Plain and simple.
They have been bred since the 80s? That isn't long enough for them to have been proven to breed true.
They are not a breed.A pure breed can't be bred back to the original breeds at all, ever. The real work comes when you try to seperate the good breeders who are dozens of generations out and breeding pure from the breeders who are still mixing first and second generation mixes. A mix between a pure breed rottie and a pure mastiff is NOT a purebred but you're going to have people selling them as purebreds as soon as the rostiff breed is accepted. The public needs to be educated more before anything new should be accepted as a purebred. I think they should have a name that is seperated from the names of either breed as well, not just a combo of both breed names.
No the mish-mash of names condemns it to be nothing but a designer breed.
Besides that, it's very hard to get a breed recognized any more.
ETA,
Don't ask for people's opinions if you can't handle people having opinions.
If this is only being bred for one company the gene pool can't be large enough to support a breed and there's no popularity to have a need for that large gene pool.
If they're working towards a specific goal and using proper breeding practices (not breeding a random lab and poodle and calling it a new breed) then it could well be on the way to becoming one. I don't know how hard it is though to get a breed registered and officially recognized, but honestly I think we could use a lot of changes in the dog world. I'm all for anyone working to create new healthier breeds or fixing problems in existing ones.
Definitely not.
The practise of crossing two breeds and calling them fancy names and charging ridiculous amounts of money for what in reality is just a mutt is getting completely out of hand.
There are 100`s of good breeds of dog that are suited to different types of work or just as pets and the world does not need any more added to that list.
Enough of even these dogs end up in rescue kennels.
When WILL people learn? Its just exploiting dogs for money and daft vulnerable people are stupid enough to pay out on what they "think" is something special. More fool them. JMO.
No way. And there is already a surfeit of breeds for various purposes. There is absolutely no need to create yet another breed of guard dog. Somebody just wants to pad their wallets with gullible rubes' hard-earned money.
No, I would not consider it a breed but a mix between 2 recognized breeds.
never heard of it - sorry.
ive got sheltie cross staffies, i dont call them shetland terriers!!
No, I don't consider it to be a real breed
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